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Όσοι από εμάς έχουμε δεί Star Trek The Next Generation, γνωρίζουμε για την μάχη με τους Borg στο Wolf 359. Αλλά τι είναι το Wolf 359; Είναι ένα φανταστικό μέρος του Γαλαξία μας όπως αρκετά άλλα; Και όμως το Wolf 359 υπάρχει στην πραγματικότητα.

Το βρήκα διαβάζοντας αστρονομία για το Open University και ψάχνοντας σας παραθέτω μερικά πράγματα:

 

To Wolf 359 είναι ένα από τα πιό κοντινά άστρα σε εμάς, και απέχει περίπου 7,78 έτη φωτός. Βρίσκεται στον αστερισμό του Λέωντα, και δεν είναι ορατό με γυμνό μάτι. Χρειάζεστε ένα καλό τηλεσκόπιο για να το δείτε. Το άστρο αυτό είναι ένας κόκκινος νάνος, και βρέθηκε από τον Max Wolf το 1918, μέσω αστροφωτογραφίας.

 

Επίσης παραθέτω από την Wikipedia:

  • Wolf 359 is the name of an episode of The Outer Limits television show, originally broadcast 7 November 1964.
  • Wolf 359 is an industrial and mining colony in the computer game Frontier: Elite 2.
  • In the Star Trek fictional universe, the Battle of Wolf 359 is a pivotal confrontation between the United Federation of Planets and the Borg in 2367 that resulted in a decisive Federation defeat.
  • Wolf 359 is mentioned in the British version of Invaders from Mars (1953).
  • Wolf 359 is repeatedly mentioned as a candidate for terraforming in There Will Be Dragons.
  • Wolf 359 is the location of the planet "New England" in the game Escape Velocity Nova.
  • Wolf 359 was a series of Babylon 5 and Star Trek fan conventions that ran in England between 1995 and 2003.

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Spock

From startrek.com:

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news...icle/57796.html

 

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05.26.2007

Science Roundup: Data in Robot Hall of Fame; Replicators; Tricorders; etc.

 

Data Named to Robot Hall of Fame

 

Our favorite 24th-century android has joined an elite group of artificial lifeforms by being named to Carnegie Mellon University's "Robot Hall of Fame." Data is one of four inductees in this year's list, and the only fictional one. The announcement was made last week at the fourth annual RoboBusiness Conference in Boston.

 

"Data played a pivotal role on questions of robot 'right to life' matters and human/machine philosophies," explained Ray Jarvis, director of the Intelligent Robotics Research Centre at the Australian National University, a juror for the Robot Hall of Fame.

 

Further, according to fellow juror Anne Balsamo, "In one episode, Data is put on trial to determine whether he has the right to refuse to submit to a procedure that would disassemble him ["The Measure of a Man"]. During the trial, it is determined that Data is not 'property,' like a computer or a toaster, but rather a sentient life form entitled to rights of self-determination." Balsamo is managing director of the Institute for Multimedia Literacy at the University of Southern California.

 

The other three 2007 honorees are "Raibert Hopper," a hopping robot that revolutionized thinking about walking robots; "NavLab 5," the first car to steer itself on a coast-to-coast U.S. trip; and LEGO Mindstorms, a kit that made it possible for anyone to build robots.

 

"This is the first time since we established the Robot Hall of Fame in 2003 that most of the inductees are real robots rather than those of science fiction," said Matt Mason, director of Carnegie Mellon's Robotics Institute. "As much as we love fictional robots such as Data, those of us in the robotics field take heart when the real accomplishments of our colleagues get this well-deserved recognition."

 

Data is the first Star Trek entry in the Robot Hall of Fame. Past inductees include the HAL 9000 from "2001: A Space Odyssey"; the "Star Wars" duo of R2-D2 and C-3PO; and Gort, the metallic giant from Robert Wise's "The Day the Earth Stood Still." Other real-world bots previously recognized include the Mars Pathfinder & Sojourner Rovers and Honda's ASIMO robot.

 

"The great robots of science fiction, such as Gort, have a powerful hold on people's imaginations, which is why we honor them and their creators," said Don Marinelli, executive producer of Carnegie Mellon's Entertainment Technology Center. "It's precisely because Data was not confined by real-world limitations that he could address philosophical questions, such as whether a machine can have rights."

 

To learn more, visit www.RobotHallOfFame.org.

 

Replicators Coming Soon to Your Home

 

They may not be able to produce edible food out of thin air just yet, but they'll be able to replicate almost any other solid object, and they'll start selling this year. According to a New York Times feature article titled "Beam It Down From the Web, Scotty," several technology companies are developing "3-D printers" for home use, which will allow owners to download three-dimensional plans online, push Print, and in a few hours remove a solid object from the printer. (The author likens it to the transporter, but the replicator is a more direct analogy.)

 

Three-dimensional printers, often called "rapid prototypers," assemble objects out of an array of specks of material, just as traditional printers create images out of dots of ink or toner. They build models in a stack of very thin layers, each created by a liquid or powdered plastic that can be hardened in small spots by precisely applied heat, light or chemicals.

 

"In the future, everyone will have a printer like this at home," said Hod Lipson, a professor at Cornell University, who has led a project that published a design for a 3-D printer that can be made with about $2,000 in parts. "You can imagine printing a toothbrush, a fork, a shoe. Who knows where it will go from here?"

 

Three-dimensional printers have been used in industrial design shops for about a decade, but they can cost upwards of $15,000. One entrepreneurial firm, IdeaLab in Pasadena, plans to start selling its consumer model this year for about $5,000, and the price could fall to $1,000 in four years. Applications include housewares, toys and models of avatars created by online gamers. Read the full article at this NYTimes.com link.

 

Breakthroughs Likened to Tricorder

 

Step by step it seems the Tricorder — both the general field model and the medical version — is becoming reality. A couple of recent scientific and medical breakthroughs have been likened to Star Trek's tricorder concept.

 

Researchers at Purdue University have developed a handheld sensing system that can be used in the field for chemical analysis, with such applications as testing food for contaminants or detecting explosives residue on luggage. The instrument is a miniature mass spectrometer combined with a technique called "desorption electrospray ionization." Unlike the conventional mass spectrometer — a cumbersome laboratory instrument that analyzes specially prepared samples in a vacuum chamber — the lightweight device can perform the ionization step in the air or directly on surfaces, explains project leader R. Graham Cooks. "We like to compare it to the tricorder because it is truly a handheld instrument that yields information about the precise chemical composition of samples in a matter of minutes without harming the samples," he said. Read more in this Purdue press release.

 

In another recent science story, medical researchers are one step closer to analyzing disease without the need for invasive biopsies. Scientists in California have discovered that X-ray images — like the CT scans a cancer patient routinely gets — contain patterns that can help doctors identify the unique genetic characteristics of a tumor, and thus lead to a personalized treatment without having to remove body tissue. "In almost every episode of Star Trek, there is a device called a tricorder, which they used noninvasively to scan living or nonliving matter to determine its molecular makeup,” said Dr. Howard Chang of the Stanford University School of Medicine. "Something like that would be very, very useful." For more, see this Stanford press release.

 

The Search for Vulcan

 

When NASA launches a planet-finding observatory into space in the next decade, one of its tasks will be to find out if Vulcan is really out there. The SIM PlanetQuest mission will scan for habitable planets in other star systems, and one of its targets will be 40 Eridani A, which is generally regarded as the parent star of Planet Vulcan.

 

40 Eridani is a triple-star system 16 light-years from Earth, and the "A" star is a red-orange dwarf slightly smaller and cooler than our Sun. In 1991 Gene Roddenberry endorsed 40 Eridani as Vulcan's sun in Sky & Telescope magazine, and ever since it has been used semi-canonically. Geoffrey Mandel's book "Star Trek Star Charts" identifies it as such, and the Enterprise episode "Home" set the distance between Earth and Vulcan as 16 light-years.

 

Caltech astronomer Dr. Angelle Tanner has proposed that SIM try to detect Spock's homeworld. But could a habitable planet even exist in such a place? Planetary theorist Dr. Sean Raymond of Colorado answers: "Since the three members of the triple star system are so far away from each other, I see no reason why an Earth-mass planet would not be able to form around the primary star, 40 Eridani A." But the orbit of such a planet would have to lie in the "sweet spot" around the star where it's not too hot or too cold for water to exist in liquid form. Even Vulcans need water, if not as much as humans.

 

SIM, which stands for Space Interferometry Mission, is an optical interferometer that will operate in an Earth-trailing solar orbit, and will measure the distances and positions of stars with hundreds of times more accuracy than previous observations. It is precise enough to detect extrasolar planets almost as small as Earth. If evidence is found of a "Planet Vulcan" in the right place, a later mission, NASA's Terrestrial Planet Finder, will look for signatures of life such as methane and ozone.

 

For more on this story, see this NASA PlanetQuest page and this Space.com article.

 

The statistical probability of finding habitable planets elsewhere in the galaxy — perhaps many of them — increased substantially last month when a team of scientists announced the discovery of an Earth-like world around the red dwarf star Gliese 581, in the very "sweet spot" or habitable zone where liquid water could reside. It represents a major milestone in astronomy, being the first exoplanet found that conceivably could harbor life as we know it.

 

The planet, dubbed Gliese 581 C, is about 50 percent bigger than Earth with about five times the mass. The mean temperature is estimated to lie between 32 to 104 degrees Fahrenheit, based on its distance from the parent star and the red dwarf's luminosity. Computer models predict the planet is either rocky like Earth, or a waterworld entirely covered by oceans, but theoretically should have some form of an atmosphere. It is 20.5 light-years away, relatively close by galactic standards. European scientists found it using the "wobble" technique, in which the size and mass of a planet are determined based on small perturbations in the parent star's orbit.

 

A fascinating essay about this finding and its implications regarding the search for extraterrestrial intelligence (SETI) was written by friend of the Star Trek community Seth Shostak of the SETI Institute. "The number of planets in our own galaxy could easily tally in the hundreds of billions," Shostak writes. "This latest discovery is a strong hint that a great number of these could be carpeted in the dirty chemistry we call life. Earth may be unique, but it might not be miraculous." See his full essay at this SETI.org link.

 

Scientists Prove Data Can Be Stored in DNA

 

In a story reminiscent of "The Chase" — in which ancient humanoid beings seeded the galaxy and implanted a message of peace within the genomes of the resultant lifeforms — Japanese scientists have developed a technology that uses bacteria DNA as a medium for storing data. Researchers have successfully encoded "e=mc² 1905!" — Einstein's theory of relativity and the year he enunciated it — on common soil bacteria. The technique involves inserting artificial DNA carrying the data into the genome sequence of the bacteria, along with several identical copies as "backup files" to counteract natural degradation. Conceivably this method could store text and images for many millennia. For more on this story, see this ComputerWorld.com article. (Our question is, how do they get Data small enough to fit inside a bacterium? Ha ha ... someone had to say it.)

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Darkchilde

Mission could seek out Spock's planet

 

Άραγε υπάρχει ένας Vulcan εκεί έξω;

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Oberon

Το είχα ακούσει αυτό πριν καιρό, και για την αναζήτηση του 'Ήφαιστου" γύρω από τον 40 του Ηριδανού Α, και για την "αποστολή" της αναζήτησης γαιωδών πλανητών σε άλλα ηλιακά συστήματα με πολύ μεγάλο ενδιαφέρον!

 

If Vulcan life were to exist on the planet, the orbit of the planet would have to lie in a sweet spot around the star where liquid water could be present on its surface. Water is an essential ingredient for any organism to live long and prosper.

 

Το σημείο αυτό πιο πάνω όμως, είναι ά-παιχ-το!! :rofl2: Thanks για το λινκ, Βούλα!

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Ίσως λοιπόν στην επερχόμενη ταινία να ακούσουμε για πρώτη φορά 'επίσημα' ότι ο Vulcan βρίσκεται πράγματι στο 40 Eridani! Ποιος ξέρει...!

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LocutusGR

Για δειτε αυτο απο το www.in.gr

έμεινα με το στόμα ανοιχτό

 

 

 

 

Οι γιατροί σε νοσοκομείο του Βανκούβερ έμειναν άφωνοι όταν ο ασθενής τον οποίο χειρουργούσαν άρχισε να αιμορραγεί με σκούρο πράσινο αίμα. Ο 42 χρονος παρουσίασε μια σπάνια διαταραχή λόγω φαρμάκου που έπαιρνε σε υψηλές δόσεις.

 

Το ασυνήθιστο περιστατικό, που παρουσιάζεται στην έγκριτη βρετανική επιθεώρηση Lancet, παραπέμπει στον Μίστερ Σποκ από τη σειρά Σταρ Τρεκ -γεννημένος στον πλανήτη Βούλκαν, ο εξωγήινος αστροναύτης είχε επίσης πράσινο αίμα.

 

Όπως αναφέρει το BBC, ο Καναδός ασθενής έπασχε από ημικρανίες και έπαιρνε το φάρμακο σουματριπτάνη σε δόση 200 mg την ημέρα. Η υψηλή δοσολογία του προκάλεσε θειοαιμοσφαιριναιμία, μια σπάνια διαταραχή κατά την οποία συσσωρεύεται θείο στην αιμοσφαιρίνη του αίματος, με αποτέλεσμα να γίνεται πράσινο.

 

Το αίμα του 42 χρονου επανήλθε στο φυσιολογικό μετά τη διακοπή της φαρμακευτικής αγωγής. «Ο ασθενής ανέκαμψε χωρίς επιπλοκές και σταμάτησε να παίρνει σουματριπτάνη μετά το εξιτήριό του. Όταν εξετάστηκε πέντε εβδομάδες μετά την τελευταία δόση, δεν υπήρχε θειοαιμοσφαιρίνη στο αίμα του» γράφει η ομ'άδα της Δρ Αλάνα Φλέξμαν στο Νοσοκομείο Αγίου Παύλου.

 

Η χειρουργική επέμβαση πραγματοποιήθηκε πάντως για άσχετη πάθηση -ο 42 χρονος είχε παρουσιάσει στο πόδι του «σύνδρομο διαμερίσματος», μια διαταραχή κατά την οποία το πρήξιμο και η πίεση σε ένα μέλος εμποδίζει τη ροή του αίματος και προξενεί τοπικές βλάβες.

 

Το σύνδρομο οφείλεται συχνά σε τραύμα, εσωτερική αιμορραγία, ή υπερβολικά σφιχτό επίδεσμο ή γύψο. Αντιμετωπίζεται με χειιρουργικές τομές στην περιτονία για την εκτόνωση της πίεσης.

 

Στην τηλεοπτική σειρά Star Trek, ο Μίστερ Σπόκ είχε πράσινο αίμα επειδή η αιμοσφαιρίνη του δεν περιέχει σίδηρο όπως στους ανθρώπους, αλλά χαλκό.

 

Newsroom ΔΟΛ

To θέμα έχει τίτλο "Η Νόσος του Μιστερ Σποκ"

http://www.in.gr/news/article.asp?lngEntit...mp;lngDtrID=252

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Oberon

Heheheheheh. Αν και πρόκειται για αρρώστια, πολύ καλή η φάση! Αν μάλιστα γίνει και Τρέκκερ από αυτή τη φάση, ή αν είναι ήδη, σίγουρα θα μπορεί να καυχιέται πως υπήρξε ομοαίματος του Σποκ, κάτι που κανείς άλλος δεν μπορεί να καυχηθεί! :lol:

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Spock

Άλλοι έχουν το όνομα και άλλοι έχουν τη χάρη... :lol: :tongue:

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Μμμμ...

 

Λέτε να αρχίσουν τώρα να γίνονται τα φρύδια του μακρυά και τα αυτιά του μυτερά; :tease:

 

Λέμε τώρα :rofl2:

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Βρε μπας και είναι καμουφλαρισμένος Vulcan ο τύπος; :tease:

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:lol: Αριστοφανούλα, αν γίνουν σίγουρα θα το μάθουμε πάντως! Στο ντοκιμαντέρ Trekkies που είχαμε δει στο Trek night πριν μήνες, έδειξε κάποιους που κάνουν πλαστική εγχείρηση στ'αυτιά τους για να γίνουν μακρουλά σαν του Σποκ!

(Σας φαίνεται αρρωστημένο, non-Trekkers? Σίγουρα λιγότερο αρρωστημένο από αυτούς που κάνουν ουλές στο σώμα τους με οξυγονοκόλληση γιατί είναι "cool" ή άλλους/άλλες που βάζουν κρίκους στα πιο απόκρυφα σημεία τους!) :tongue:

 

Δημήτρη ή είναι καμουφλαρισμένος Βουλκάνιος και τον ανακαλύψανε (όπως το Riker στο επεισόδιο First Contact) ή κάτι άλλο τρέχει. Εξ άλλου δεν ήταν το 2063 που για πρώτη φορά....<ακολουθεί spoiler για το Enterprise>

ήρθαν Βουλκάνιοι στη Γη, αλλά τη δεκαετία του 1950 με τη γιαγιά της T'Pol

 

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aristofanoula

Πάντως θα ήταν πολύ όμορφο αν υπήρχαν στα αλήθεια!

 

Λέτε να γίνει το First Contact αλλά από την ανάποδη;

 

:rofl2: :thmbup:

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RaspK

Αυτό με τ' αυτιά έχει γίνει και με τα ξωτικά του Τόλκιν, πλάκα στην πλάκα...

 

Να κάνω μια λίγο άσχετη, λίγο σχετική ερώτηση, όμως; Έχοντας δει τον πιλότο, είναι η εντύπωσή μου ή το αρχικό concept του Spock οδήγησε στους Romulans;

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Να κάνω μια λίγο άσχετη, λίγο σχετική ερώτηση, όμως; Έχοντας δει τον πιλότο, είναι η εντύπωσή μου ή το αρχικό concept του Spock οδήγησε στους Romulans;

Τα χαρακτηριστικά των Romulans είναι τελείως διαφορετικά από τους Vulcans, εκτός, βέβαια, από την εξωτερική τους εμφάνιση. Το αρχικό concept του Spock διαφέρει με τους Vulcans που ξέρουμε μόνο στο θέμα της απουσίας των συναισθημάτων, η οποία δεν υπάρχει στον πιλότο. Αλλά και πάλι, δεν υπάρχει κάποια ομοιότητα με τους Romulans.

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Αναφέρομαι σε δύο attributes: εξωτερική εμφάνιση, και ΈΝΤΟΝΑ συναισθήματα. Το design του Spock ήταν, αρχικά, εμπνευσμένο από πολλές απεικονήσεις του διαβόλου, απ' όσο θυμάμαι από τις συνεντεύξεις και ειδικά για τον πιλότο, ενώ οι Vulcans έχουν πολύ έντονα συναισθήματα που, απλά, έχουν μάθει με μια σειρά πνευματικών ασκήσεων, προκλήσεων και αποχών ν' απομονώνουν και να κατευνάζουν, κυρίως μέσω ενδοσκόπησης (πράγμα που επιτυγχάνεται, συν τοις άλλοις, χάρει στην πολλή μεγάλη νοητική τους ικανότητα), αλλά όλος αυτός ο έλεγχος απουσίαζε παντελώς στον πιλότο.

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Μ΄αυτήν την έννοια, ίσως να ήταν το μοντέλο για τους Romulans. Υπάρχει η θεωρία, μάλιστα, ότι έχουν κοινή καταγωγή, Vulcans και Romulans, απόγονοι του λαού του Sargon, κάτι που όμως δεν επιβεβαιώνεται. Σχετικά με τη 'διαβολική' εικόνα, όντως, έτσι περιγράφεται και στο Trek Pitch, και επισημαίνεται η αντίθεση όψης και χαρακτήρα, που κάθε άλλο παρά διαβολικός είναι (για τους Vulcans, όχι τους Romulans αργότερα).

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Real Trekkie Tricorder Invented

 

Charles Q. Choi

Special to LiveScience

LiveScience.com

Wed Apr 30, 2:16 PM ET

 

New handheld medical scanners coupled with regular cell phones resemble "Star Trek" tricorders and could see what ails you with a push of a button.

 

The invention, using off-the-shelf cell phone technology, would allow medical scanners could boldly go where none have gone before - to the aid of the roughly three-quarters of the world's population currently without access to ultrasounds, X-rays and other imagers used for everything from detecting tumors to monitoring fetuses.

 

In addition to offering medical scans in developing nations, the devices "could find their way in ambulances, or rural clinics," said Boris Rubinsky, a professor of bioengineering at the University of California, Berkeley.

 

Medical imagers are typically bulky combinations of scanners, processors and video monitors. Rubinsky and his colleagues instead physically separated these components, so the most complicated elements of imagers - the powerful computer processors - can reside at a remote central location.

 

The researchers next devised a simple portable scanner that could plug into a cell phone. The phones transmit the raw scanning data to the processors, which create images to relay back for viewing on the cell phone screen.

 

Cheaper approach

 

The surprisingly simple setup is described in the April 30 issue of the journal PLoS ONE.

 

The scheme would significantly lower the cost of medical imaging because one processor facility could serve multiple imagers.

 

"You could be out in the middle of a remote village and still have cell phone access," said researcher Antoni Ivorra, also at Berkeley.

 

The portable scanner was hooked up to a cell phone with a USB cable and tested on a gel-filled container that simulated breast tissue afflicted with a tumor. Diseased tissue conducts electricity differently than healthy tissue does. The image that was sent back had the simulated tumor clearly visible onscreen.

 

Simple and flexible

 

These devices could work with any cell phone that can send and receive pictures or audio and video clips.

 

"The size of the data in the study was only six kilobytes, which is ridiculously small," explained researcher Yair Granot at Berkeley. "A one sentence, text-only e-mail message is bigger than that."

 

Rubinsky noted that "people are able to watch full movies on their iPods" so cell phone screen sizes should not be a major impediment.

 

In the future, ultrasound scanners could also couple with cell phones. Just the ultrasound scanner "might cost about $1,000, while a whole ultrasound machine with all the other components might be about $70,000," Rubinsky told LiveScience. "We could take medical imaging and possibly benefit the entire world."

 

Simply donating existing medical scanners to the world's poorest regions is not a viable, long-term solution, Rubinsky said.

 

"More than half of the medical equipment in developing countries is left unused or broken because it is too complicated or expensive to operate and repair," he explained. "We set out to develop something that locals could sustain on their own, as well as something that is relevant to local economies and technologies."

 

Broad implications

 

These portable scanners "could open up whole new avenues of health care for the developing world," Rubinsky said. "Health professionals in rural clinics could affordably get the tools they need to properly diagnose and treat their patients."

 

Although diagnosis and treatment of roughly one-fifth of all diseases can benefit from medical imaging, "this advancement has been out of reach for millions of people in the world because the equipment is too costly to maintain," Rubinsky said. "Our system would make imaging technology inexpensive and accessible for these underserved populations."

 

The scanners could have broad applications in the developed world, too, he said.

 

"Health professionals in rural clinics could affordably get the tools they need to properly diagnose and treat their patients," Rubinsky said. "If you had a car accident, you could put a cap on the hat of the victim in the ambulance, and before the ambulance even gets to the hospital, all the information can go through the cell phone, maybe to spot if that person has internal bleeding in their head."

 

Και μετά σου λένε πως το Star Trek δεν είναι "ρεαλιστική" και "hard" science fiction! Χα και πάλι Χα!! :alaugh: :starfleet: :aufo:

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tetartos

Παρότι το ξέρετε ότι δε θα διαφωνήσω για το Star Trek ;) έχω κάποιες αμφιβολίες...

Δεν μας είπαν τι είδους scanners! (έγινε μια αναφορά στους υπερήχους αλλά δε μας λένε πόσο μεγάλο θα είναι το μηχάνημα που σκανάρει...) π.χ. δεν μπορείς να έχεις φορητό αξονικό ή μαγνητικό!

Τώρα, για το αν αυτό θα βοηθήσει τον Τρίτο Κόσμο, καλύτερα να μην αρχίσω - θα πω όμως μια λέξη: ΦΑΡΜΑΚΑ!

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Και μετά σου λένε πως το Star Trek δεν είναι "ρεαλιστική" και "hard" science fiction! Χα και πάλι Χα!! :alaugh: :starfleet: :aufo:

Προσθέτω κι εγώ μερικά "ΧΑ"!

 

Πολύ καλό το νέο! Φυσικά και απέχει πολύ από τα tricorders του Σταρ Τρεκ, αλλά είναι ένα πολύ σημαντικό και -κυρίως- πολύ ενθαρρυντικό βήμα προς αυτά!

 

ΥΓ.: Ένωσα κάποια παλιά ποστ με το τόπικ περί tricorders, ώστε να έχουμε ένα συγκεντρωμένο τόπικ στο οποίο μπορούμε να μιλάμε για οτιδήποτε σχετικό με επιτεύγματα του τωρινού κόσμου, επιστημονικά, τεχνολογικά, που σχετίζονται με το Σταρ Τρεκ, για έρευνες πάνω σ' αυτά και γενικώς για διάφορα σχετικά νέα. :asmile: :starfleet:

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DimitrisX

Αχ και να είχα χώρο να το κάνω στο σπίτι αυτό. :(

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DmJapan

Hahahaha! Απίστευτο. Όρεξη να έχεις και μπορείς να κάνεις παπάδες. chinese.gif chinese.gif

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Spock

Πολύ ενδιαφέρον, αν και η ουσία του UT στο Star Trek είναι ότι μεταφράζει σε/από άγνωστες γλώσσες, κάτι που είναι ακόμη όνειρο.

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